8e Cuirassiers 1700-1870 rules

[panzer8]

This is a draft I made time ago, for a tactical set of horse & musket rules. I never playtested it but I attach the .doc file for your consideration... see if you can make it a good set of two-pages rules

8-  °_Cuirassiers_1700-1870_rules_2.doc

Thanks for the rules, have made a few tweaks and will play test. Would very much like your opinions on all the following, hobbling movement of poorly trained or slow troops as per your ancient rules. I will allow units to move through each other, count as rough terrain with no melee and possibly temporary disorder. Passage of lines was a trained manouvre I'm led to believe. Squares could move, read an article on this online recently. Dropped the rifled artillery firing modifier as I think the main advantage was superior range. Have added a +1 modifier for Heavier cavalry vs cavalry in melee. Changed the column vs line from march to attack column as I knew that was what you ment. Added a -1 for melee through bad going, -2 if cav.

Please advise if all the above is rubbish or simply not in line with the game as I have not played them yet. I very much like the basic mechanism of these and your other sets.

Thanks again, I'm off to buy a man a pint, stef.

[panzer8]

Thank you Stef!

all your changes make sense to me... let us know if you try the rules, how it goes... cheers!

Sorry to bug you again Pz8 but how would you feel about firing/shooting modifiers for the targets morale, say -1 firing on a veteran unit, +1 on a raw.

I know the rally modifiers will cover some of this but I'm going to give it a go. As you know a single misplaced modifier can seriously upset the apple cart.

Some serious playtesting ahead for me. I think your rules can handle fair sized actions in a short time as your own games seem to indicate.

Many thanks again, stef.

[panzer8]

Hell Stef,

-1 for veteran and + 1 for raw target makes sense too... it could be tried and see if this does not create excessive effects, added to the other modifiers... --- Pz8

[Kaptain Kobold]

I hadn't seen this thread before this evening, but I tried the rules (as originally published) today, and wrote a report on my blog:

Link

I didn't find them satisfactory as written, but can see that they might play OK with some work. Passage of lines would help, and a smoother melee system, where units don't stay locked together attacking each other on alternate turns. I dropped the straight ahead move requirement as well, allowing units to move within 45 degrees of their facing, so long as their facing doesn't change. I's also allow a wheel to just be part of a normal move.

Agree with most of the changes above - rifled artillery getting longer range only, for example. I wouldn't impose the 'Over half range' penalty on smoothbore muskets either - too fiddly with a 3" range.

[panzer8]

Hi Kaptain Kobold!

Thank you for trying the rules... I wrote them for a friend that asked for a set of Horse & Musket rules. But I never tried them and judging from your review, it shows

Anyway I am glad that at least you find possible to make out a passable set of rules, with some work. I must confess that Horse & Musket is not my favourite wargaming area and I don't plan to update them soon. If you want to make the job, why not?

Thank you again for the report. I enjoyed the photos, too.